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April 09, 2010

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Jon Husband

May my debt be forgiven! Better yet, may another pay the price.

Isn't that the motto of the majority of people in 21st Century developed societies? Wishing for magic or avoidance of accountability ?

I want to go back to primordial.

Phil Cubeta

I was thinking of Jesus, actually, and the doctrine that he gave his life to ransom us from sin and death, which was what I guess Caesar's face on the coin maybe denoted.

Jon Husband

Shows how cynical or naive I often am.

Phil Cubeta

More like idealistic, Jon.

tm

a grateful mind
By owing owes not, but still pays, at once
Indebted and dischargd;

- Satan

twitter.com/ddenizen

I've been reading about kenosis, via George Ellis, and this word is also used to refer to Jesus' sacrifice. The meaning is "to pour oneself" into something. Grace, I would think, is the means by which such giving of self is redeemed. I think Ellis is right that these are structural aspects of the world, discoverable like mathematics.

twitter.com/ddenizen

Careful there on hierarchy. Scarcity leads inevitable to dominance hierarchy, but we must be careful not to confuse this with the compositional hierarchy of systems emergence.

Phil Cubeta

Gratitude can feel like a debt. The gift received yearns to be a gift discharged or passed on. Teaching is like that, and parenting, and artistic traditions.

Christine Egger

"A community is the space marked out by a gift as it circulates."

<- beautiful and illuminating

Phil Cubeta

Malinowski revisited.

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